Conversation Guide for Crybaby Ranch
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Q. Was there a particular image or idea that triggered
the writing of Crybaby Ranch?
A. An image that supplied a lot of energy for writing
this story occurred during an intense point in my mother's fatal
illness. I witnessed my parents holding each other's hands and looking
in into each other's eyes. My father said to my mother, "We
are partners, aren't we?" Though lasting only a moment, I was
seared with a profound awareness of what it means to commit to another
person. They were nearing their 50th anniversary. I used this scene
in the book to help Suzannah describe to Bo what kind of marriage
she wanted.
The idea of life partners intrigues me. Though I have
been married to the same man for decades now, I think of us as having
five or six different marriages within the one. Partners don't always
grow at similar rates or in compatible ways, so when there is a
bond of deep love, this calls for adjustments instead of separation.
But a relationship involves an exchange between two people and in
some cases the exchange stops or only flows one way, as in the case
of Suzannah and Erik at the novel's opening. I don't believe that
every marriage should continue until parted by death, but I do believe
that a committed partnership acts on many energetic levels, some
very mysterious.
Q. Did you hope to send any messages through the story
of Suzannah?
A. Perhaps a little confirmation for women in particular
toward the idea of discovering their true selves, offer a couple
signposts that I have discovered during my own process of what Jung
calls "individuation." One signpost is to follow what
you love, as Suzannah did in moving to Jackson Hole, getting a job
at a bookstore, honoring her love of beadwork. A relationship with
the natural world is very healing, as is learning to enjoy solitude.
Yet perhaps the most powerful and direct path is the creative one.
Engaging creative energy is a sure way to awaken the unconscious
and enliven ourselves. Suzannah's love for creating her beaded jewelry
both aroused her evolution toward independence and supported her
through the difficulties that journey provoked.
Q. Did you know the ending of Crybaby Ranch before arriving
at that point in writing it?
A. No, but sometime early on I knew the final line: "It
begins, it begins." I was so happy knowing that; it carried
me through the years of writing with a bit of confidence that I
would complete this project and create a story that measured up
to the spiritual meaning those words held for me.
Q. So the whole story was not in mind before you began
writing it?
A. No, not at all. I began the novel with a sense of
magnetism between Suzannah and Bo, along with that image I mentioned
earlier of my parents acknowledging their partnership. Then I just
had some fun moving the story along, then I had some trouble moving
the story along, back and forth - fun and trouble - until it began
to come together. After that, it was rewrite after rewrite with
spaces in between for clarity to make an appearance...if it was
going to. This book spent a lot of time sitting about. Yet each
time I picked it up again, I felt a strong energy for making it
work. So I would engage in yet another rewrite.
Q. Love for the natural world plays a role in your novel.
Suzannah found solace and pleasure in the outdoors. Do you?
A. Once I was a dependent, indecisive person who never
strayed far from my husband and children or the places I was expected
to be. Then slowly I began to wander farther and farther up the
mountain canyons. First just short walks, then I packed my lunch
and spent entire days on solo hikes into the Tetons. I was scared
some of the time and exhilarated all the time. The love of the natural
world became another relationship for me. And this relationship
supported a whole new sense of who I was and who I could become.
As it turned out I felt happy with my own company and I became confident
that I could take care of myself.
Q. Is there a joining of biography with imagination in
the novel?
A. Yes. And that's a good way to put it. It's a joining
- a mating, a kind of love affair, even a sexuality - of actual
life and the creative arts. Like real life conception these two
qualities - my experience and my imagination - bonded and produced
(in a whole lot longer than nine months!) a novel. Some parts of
the story concerning Suzannah and her mother Lizzie came from journal
entries I made while caring for my own mother as she suffered from
Alzheimer's Disease. But with time and dozens of rewrites, this
biographical piece blended with fiction and became a universal story
about any mother who suffers and any daughter who loves her mother.
Suzannah is not me; Lizzie is not my mother. Yet, because of my
experience, there is an emotional reality to this relationship in
the book.
One of the things I love most about creative writing
is how this blend works. It entertains me enormously to discover
that I have created some character that I know nothing about at
the moment, only to realize later that he or she has evolved from
a past seedling. Even those crazy Aunts kind of emerged from this
silly routine my sister Gayle and I drop into sometimes when we
realize we have done something nutty. We might be out on her boat,
hear something fall into the water and one of us will say in our
particular dialogue voice, "Sister? Was that our house key
you dropped in the water?" And the other will answer in the
same tone, "Of course not, Sister, that was just your lunch."
But at the same time such disclosures
are dangerous to make since people then tend to jump to the conclusion
that a novel is entirely true, a thinly disguised memoir, which
creates an immense disservice to any work of art. Fiction, like
painting or dance, is an artist's interpretive vision of life: the
choices available, the working out of cause and effect, the meaning,
the interconnection of it all. People who have little experience
of the power of creative energy often assume there isn't such a
thing and their understanding of the process is limited.
Q. What is the most difficult part for you about writing
a novel? What is the most pleasant?
A. In my experience writing a novel is a long, long process
that takes me years to complete and during that time I don't know
if I am writing something that connects me to real life in a deeply
intimate way or detaches me from real life in a way that threatens
my mental health. Or at least that is how it has felt in the past.
With the publication of Crybaby Ranch my confidence in how I work
has increased and I may find this mystery solved or at least more
comfortable.
I fall in love with the process, the characters, the
story and even myself because of the enlivening force of creative
energy. But then I wonder if I'm in some dream world in which noone
but me finds value. In that case, those growing stacks of papers
on my desk and those tiny notes that litter my car, kitchen, and
business, like confetti, only attest to a kind of insanity. Then
again it may be a novel and those papers are proof that it's evolving
toward completion. It may be that all novelists flirt with schizophrenia,
though I suspect that this is something that self-heals with experience.
I remember the first novel I wrote (which resides in my bottom desk
drawer) was such an intense process that I feared I was going to
meet my characters on the street. Now I succeed more often in seeing
my work as my work, rather than my life. Perhaps it is necessary
in the beginning of all passions - whether a relationship, a skill,
an art or an idea - for us to briefly loosen our boundaries and
merge with it in order to fully experience it. Honeymoons aren't
necessarily just applicable to marriages.
All of the above could also apply to what is pleasant
about writing a novel. My life feels dense and textured with the
fullness of experience. Writing for me brings the unconscious into
the conscious. So I can enjoy discovering the first sage buttercup
of springtime on the mountain behind my house, then when I return
home, enjoy the discovery in another way through writing about it.
Often that second experience lifts from my awareness other qualities
of the experience that I wasn't conscious of at the time. And, too,
it pins down the fullness of the event for me: my fingers touching
the glossy petals, the aroma of wet earth as the snow melts into
it, my eyes squinting in the sunlight, my pup Zoe nosing the blossom.
These flowers are only the size of a dime and are a wondrous surprise
in the patchy snow. Writing for me enlarges my life and deepens
it as well. Reading also accomplishes this for me, so I am very
grateful to be involved in the whole exchange of writing and reading.
Q. Would you describe your workplace and writing schedule?
A. My workplace is a small log cabin, an old one, moved
in from the Elk Refuge outside of Jackson Hole and attached to my
home. Just one room with an ancient woodstove (there is also electric
heat), windows on three sides, lots of bookshelves. One wall supports
a long rustic-looking counter the previous owner put in, which I
use for crafts on one end and for manuscript-sorting on the other.
My desk sits facing all the windows and the stove and in a corner
I've placed a wicker settee to read and knit and beneath one window
I've created a small area for meditation. I feel lucky and grateful
every time I walk into this cabin.
My schedule is a mere theory, a rumor I pass among my
friends, a vague intention, a wispy wish. In my imagination I write
in the mornings, hike or ski in the afternoons. But in reality I
don't actually get out of my pajamas till lunchtime, and though
I've been writing, who can take anything seriously that is done
wearing pajamas? Then there is my resort shop, which I work at half
the week, morning and afternoon (though not in my pajamas). I close
the shop for two months after ski season and another two months
after the summer season, during those times I can give myself over
completely to my phantom writing schedule.
All in all, like most writers who also hold day jobs,
I often feel a bit schizophrenic (there's that word again) trying
to juggle two callings - my business and my passion. And two worlds
- one of reality and one of imagination.
Actually, I love my life. The time I spend in my shop
dealing with visitors from around the world balances perfectly with
the time I spend in solitude writing. And I especially love the
ledger work where there is no doubt about where to place the decimal
points, whereas in my writing life I can spend an hour deciding
about punctuation in a single sentence.
Q. How did you arrive at this point in your writing career?
A. Much like a new driver learning a stick shift: starts
and stops, starts and stops, jolting down the long road. Since I
have envied those writers who begin their careers as toddlers I
have racked my brain to come up with a story from my childhood that
shows without a doubt that I was always meant to be a writer. This
is the best I could find: when I was seven years old I had a favorite
spot behind the sofa and laying on my stomach I would write and
read. I remember announcing to my parents after crawling out of
that place one day that I was going to grow up and write stories.
That was the end of that for a couple decades, until
I announced to my husband sitting on the front side of the sofa
- as a grown-up should - that I would like to write. But we had
little children and though I promised myself every time I put them
down for a nap that I would use that time to write, invariably I
would nap myself. This went on until the boys entered school, then
I got a position at the local radio station to write commercials.
From there I began writing poetry, but every poem - just like a
radio commercial - could be read in 30 seconds...flat.
But that was my beginning. I fell in love with how I
felt when I wrote something - a good commercial, a poem, an essay.
Crybaby Ranch is my first published novel; before this I have published
essays in national magazines and several anthologies, lead writing
workshops for the Jackson Hole Writers Conference and other organizations.
I have always loved reading novels, so it was only a matter of time
before I tried to write one. I have two training novels that will
never be published. Yet they taught me things I needed to know about
the craft of writing and the management of creative energy.
Q. And your next project?
A. Another novel. I am hooked on the process of developing
characters that meet life-challenges, fail and succeed, and along
the way teach me things I need to know. I am especially entranced
by relationships. My next novel is about a marriage, a good marriage.
Nevertheless, the wife arrives at the need to take a sabbatical
from the marriage. I want to address some universal dreams women
have about mating for life and how those dreams so often oppose
reality. I was raised on the Cinderella story as are many women
in our culture and such fairy tales set us up for some disappointment.
And yet marriage and partnering is still something many of us yearn
to have in our life. I like to write about problems I don't know
the solutions to, so that instead of that old adage that suggests
you write about what you know, I choose to write about what I love
and want to know more about. Writing is how I educate myself.
Questions for Discussion
- Suzannah left Erik when she realized he was no longer invested
in keeping the marriage alive. Do you think women tend to hang
on to relationships long past the point of reviving them? And
do you think Suzannah should have stayed longer or left sooner?
- Suzannah wanted more from her relationship with Bo as a result
of her marriage to Erik. Do you think she had the right to expect
this? And do you think their relationship lasted past the point
in which the story ended?
- How did you feel when Suzannah began a temporary relationship
with Deak and what do you think she gained from the experience?
- Do you know anyone as zany as the Aunts?
- Bo's father O.C. was prejudicial in away others of his generation
have been. How do you handle a situation when an otherwise respected
person makes prejudicial or inflammatory remarks in your presence?
- Suzannah left home for Jackson Hole, Wyoming, the place she
could imagine herself living alone happily. Where would you go?
What qualities would you need such a place to hold?
- Every character in Crybaby Ranch evolved toward a fuller, larger
self except for the mother, Lizzie, whose Alzheimer's Disease
contracted her sense of self. Perhaps the character that grew
the most throughout the story was Bo. Discuss Bo's process of
change from a heavy drinking cowboy to a productive artist.
- Do you have someone as self-centered as Caro in your life and
how do you deal with that person?
- What role does the natural world play in your life? Like Suzannah
do you choose to spend time with nature when you need comfort,
or to celebrate your solitude, or to enjoy another person, get
inspiration, exercise, relaxation?
- Creativity is found in business, parenting, housekeeping, cooking,
crafts, music and art; what changes have a creative pursuit, such
as Suzannah's beadwork, made in your life?
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